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Comments on: On Seeing the movie Zero Dark Thirty http://michaelmurray.ca/on-seeing-the-movie-zero-dark-thirty Michael Murray Writes Things Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:07:18 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.9.9 By: Michael Murray http://michaelmurray.ca/on-seeing-the-movie-zero-dark-thirty#comment-4304 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:09:02 +0000 http://michaelmurray.ca/?p=3035#comment-4304 Foog:

I have not yet had the pleasure of seeing The Hobbit, and don’t imagine an occasion where we might meet in the near future. One of the consequences of the new market movies must compete in is that the “prestige” films ( those made for award considerations) are actually longer and bigger and more full of things. Again, I think that this is to compete against the literary arc of the television season. The movie industry is doing “something” to be different than the commercial releases aimed at the teen and global market, and the TV shows, so they make long movies, trying to fill the in between space that nobody really wants to inhabit.

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By: foog http://michaelmurray.ca/on-seeing-the-movie-zero-dark-thirty#comment-4297 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:57:25 +0000 http://michaelmurray.ca/?p=3035#comment-4297 Hate to be a contrarian but *cough* The Hobbit *cough*. Seems to me that the entertainment industry is perfectly happy to stretch stories beyond thin when it suits them.

…maybe there’s some counter-intuitive principle at work here. If the script can fit on a cocktail napkin, it has to be a 9-hour triptych minimum, otherwise cut cut cut.

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By: hipCRANK http://michaelmurray.ca/on-seeing-the-movie-zero-dark-thirty#comment-4127 Mon, 07 Jan 2013 19:00:37 +0000 http://michaelmurray.ca/?p=3035#comment-4127 agreed. 90 minutes is a squeeze. wonder why more movies aren’t sprawled out into 3, 4 or 5 parters, since there is usually a heckuva lot on the cutting room floor. imagine the bonzo box office action as each part is released, say a month after the first? mr. quentin did this with killing billy elliot to great effect. and then …. nada.

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By: Michael Murray http://michaelmurray.ca/on-seeing-the-movie-zero-dark-thirty#comment-4086 Sun, 06 Jan 2013 17:14:38 +0000 http://michaelmurray.ca/?p=3035#comment-4086 A side note to this is that movies are changing. They say that the enemy of the great is the good, and with long form, adult TV becoming the ascendent delivery system for literary entertainment, the tiny slice of time left for movies to tell competing stories seems insufficient. Ambitious movies, those without a swift, “poppy” agenda, almost always seem like failures to me, because the stories that try to tell would so clearly have been better expressed on TV. For instance, while watching Lincoln, and knowing that Tony Kushner had written a 5000000 pages script, I kept wondering why they didn’t make it an HBO show. It would have been riveting, a kind of Roots for a new generation, but instead they truncated it, made it into a movie and threw in some familiar, entertaining Spielberg flourishes that were meant to please the audience. It’s all money, of course, with mainstream Hollywood going for prequels and sequels that will move product and creating action films for the global market. The movies that I’m criticizing are those made for the Academy, the studio prestige films that are currently out of step with the world around them.

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By: Michael Murray http://michaelmurray.ca/on-seeing-the-movie-zero-dark-thirty#comment-4068 Sun, 06 Jan 2013 00:44:45 +0000 http://michaelmurray.ca/?p=3035#comment-4068 Foog:

I straight up loved The Hurt Locker, Bigelow’s last film, and after that ran about shouting that only women should make action movies. Honestly, I thought she had a lyrical, sincerely emotional eye she brought to bear on the picture that made it the exceptional film it was, but I just didn’t see it in Zero Dark Thirty. As I said, I didn’t particularly care about anyone it, but you are right, it did have cool explosions and shit, and the scope of the film was vast. It pushed a lot of the right buttons, but it just didn’t seem to have the soul I’d been expecting from her.

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By: foog http://michaelmurray.ca/on-seeing-the-movie-zero-dark-thirty#comment-4067 Sun, 06 Jan 2013 00:36:14 +0000 http://michaelmurray.ca/?p=3035#comment-4067 You are ignoring the single most important point: This film was directed by a woman. As such, any so-called insight you may think you have is in reality nothing more than the irrelevant observations of a man mired in an outmoded patriarchal paradigm. Plus, it’s got cool explosions ‘n shit.

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By: Michael Murray http://michaelmurray.ca/on-seeing-the-movie-zero-dark-thirty#comment-4061 Sat, 05 Jan 2013 19:53:55 +0000 http://michaelmurray.ca/?p=3035#comment-4061 Jon, I thank you for this and for all your encouragement and support, it is very kind and very much appreciated.

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By: Jon Miller http://michaelmurray.ca/on-seeing-the-movie-zero-dark-thirty#comment-4060 Sat, 05 Jan 2013 18:44:27 +0000 http://michaelmurray.ca/?p=3035#comment-4060 I posted on Facebook, sir… but my thanks and love for being brilliant, as always.

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