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Comments on: Speaking in Tongues http://michaelmurray.ca/speaking-in-tongues Michael Murray Writes Things Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:42:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: hipCRANK http://michaelmurray.ca/speaking-in-tongues#comment-5536 Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:42:10 +0000 http://michaelmurray.ca/?p=3186#comment-5536 michael. i once dated a christian girl, who seemed perfectly sane, though presently she is on day 22 of an all-juice diet. thank goodness for facebook updates.

till next time -john

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By: Paul Morrison http://michaelmurray.ca/speaking-in-tongues#comment-4969 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 05:59:24 +0000 http://michaelmurray.ca/?p=3186#comment-4969 Not that you need it, but in your defense I do not see an implicit need to say ‘b.t.w. not all Christians are crazy’. When someone say Stalin was an atheist or Hitler (wrongly) they are not obliged to say, not that there is anything wrong with that, oh and some are not bad people.
I cannot pretend to understand what it is to ‘know’ of the Holy Trinity or ‘know’ of the identity of the supernatural’s intervention in the lives of myself and my loved ones – I can’t fully appreciate that. That is my failing. But I am pretty sure I define ‘know’ differently.
I can appreciate what it is like to feel judged or persecuted for ones beliefs, I feel Christians ‘know’ they are, I believe for the most part, it flows the other way.

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By: Michael Murray http://michaelmurray.ca/speaking-in-tongues#comment-4933 Tue, 05 Mar 2013 20:55:22 +0000 http://michaelmurray.ca/?p=3186#comment-4933 Jon:

Not for a second do I think that all religious people– be they overt or covert– are crazy. It seems to me that the impulse to religiosity is hardwired in all of us, and that we all look to a unifying, ordering presence. Some do this exclusively through science, or art, or scripture, but in their own way I think everybody is pointing in the same direction.

The Charismatic Christians in our midst strike me a self-serving in their supernatural beliefs, choosing a way of thinking that’s exclusionary rather than inclusive. In my opinion, religion is coming to a crossroads and must now confront much of what has been so clearly out of synch for so long. Knowing now what we do of the provenance of The Bible, it’s next to impossible to square first century morality and philosophical thinking with the 21st century world that we live in. I could go on about this forever, I think, but instead I will link to a debate (10 minutes) that Sam Harris was engaged in. It’s a very difficult video for people of faith to watch, I think, as there’s an unflinching brutality to his analysis, but it’s a very, very good analysis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcO4TnrskE0

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By: Jon Miller http://michaelmurray.ca/speaking-in-tongues#comment-4932 Tue, 05 Mar 2013 20:01:37 +0000 http://michaelmurray.ca/?p=3186#comment-4932 J. Michael Murray:

Your stories always make me chortle but… jeez… some among us believe in The Holy Trinity, staying clear of any ‘organized religion’. Posts such as this one reinforces the stereotype of all Christians as weird, religious zealots and it is somewhat painful to be lumped into the same batter as the ‘Christian Right and ‘Religious Extremists’, to be baked into the weirdly misshapen, many layered cake known as ‘The Church’.
My efforts have been concentrated upon telling the only true story I know: God has saved my life and the lives of my daughter and her mother.

I do not proselytize and only discuss religion when the topic arises. I only ask that you remind people that we who believe in God are not batshit crazy.

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